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Post by Wizard. Oz on Jul 11, 2008 14:24:43 GMT -5
Didnt i told you guys that Sundra wouldnt be joining us in the Jury?? There you go, im pretty sure she wont.
Danm Raymond, what a HUGE mistake!
Go Jeff Probst 1.0!!!!
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Post by Stacy on Jul 11, 2008 19:05:36 GMT -5
And just like that, Sundra is out. Again.
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Post by Alicia Calaway on Jul 11, 2008 20:48:49 GMT -5
*clappy hands*
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Post by Alicia Calaway on Jul 12, 2008 7:10:19 GMT -5
Looks like the final 3 is Rudy James and Kathy.
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Post by Alicia Calaway on Jul 12, 2008 13:41:38 GMT -5
Wow I wonder what's happening. Looks like Kathy deleted her account now
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Post by Wizard. Oz on Jul 12, 2008 20:18:22 GMT -5
This is so AMAZINGLY awesome!! Such sore losers!
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Post by Stacy on Jul 13, 2008 12:16:41 GMT -5
Sundra alluded to Kathy's reasons for deleting her account. Since we aren't privy to her posts in her camp, maybe Sundra could enlighten us. Sundra?
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Post by τιñα on Jul 13, 2008 13:09:45 GMT -5
I haven't seen any of the posts in camp obviously but I can tell Kathy is very upset right now. When games go so far to actually hurt people... it is not "awesome" in any way.
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Post by Alicia Calaway on Jul 13, 2008 13:13:01 GMT -5
Well, from what I know, Kathy doesn't seem to be the only upset one... I wish people would remember that this is just a game.
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Post by Wizard. Oz on Jul 13, 2008 16:07:56 GMT -5
That's what i dont get... how can you put your personal life in this games?? Leave it out here and noone will be hurt.
She was the one that wanted this to be ''personal'' so she took the risk of getting upset about it. I really dont think we are the one to be blamed.
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Post by Sundra Oakley on Jul 14, 2008 7:11:51 GMT -5
As for James, not a surprise, I expected it from you, you've no loyalties to anybody even when it was me who stopped you from getting 12th place, and then 10th place ... but like always, I'll remember that for future games. As for Steph, it's just the hypocrisy I don't like, you say how much you want Rudy gone, that you trust me, and then you jump at the first chance to sail to the end with Rudy. Wow, that girl is seriously delusional. James was saved at from 10th place because I asked Kathy to please not vote James, and she agreed. That resulted in a tie vote with Ozzy losing due to past votes. And for 12th place, wasn't Steph the one who gave immunity to James?? I'm surprised she doesn't claim credit for James being safe this round too. Sundra next in here, please! Actually, I asked Kathy to stack a vote on Silas and not James, me and Kathy were probably the closest allies in this game, and we'd been discussing it as soon as we merged. Also, the whole giving away immunity to James was my idea. I cleared it with Jeff, and I then asked Steph to give it to him, she said she would if she got the reasurance from Kathy that she was voting our way that round, and I got that reasurance. There's a lot you don't know Alicia, I'm really not delusional.
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Post by Sundra Oakley on Jul 14, 2008 7:20:32 GMT -5
Sundra alluded to Kathy's reasons for deleting her account. Since we aren't privy to her posts in her camp, maybe Sundra could enlighten us. Sundra? She never gave her reasons at camp, they were in a PM to me, and only me. Well Jeff too, and if you read his message in the announcement thread, he doesn't blame her for leaving. She was spoken to like absolute dirt by a couple of people, one person in particular who stands no shot of getting my vote. And Alicia, no, you didn't know everything, because think what you like of me, you all can but you can't deny my game weren't good. Even when you thought myself or Kathy were gone, I pulled through and got Steph on side, and if it weren't for me self-voting, it would have been very different right now. I know I sound arrogant and all the rest of it, and it's not a nice trait, but I do honestly think my game was great and it's not nice going out how I did, yes I overreacted, but it happened and I'm here, happy with my game. Oh and Oscar, I'm a "scumbag"? Do explain ... I think you and Rudy should take lessons on not using such strong words. What did I do to you to put me on the same level as " scumbags" such as those who kill others, because that to me is a "scumbag" ... it's a vile word that I wouldn't throw around lightly. Do you still stand by me being a "scumbag" or does your 18 year old brain just enjoy throwing big words around?
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Post by Alicia Calaway on Jul 14, 2008 7:40:26 GMT -5
Lol, I guess I didn't know everything after all. Sundra, I apologize
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Post by Silas on Jul 14, 2008 11:16:30 GMT -5
Here's the thing though...
This is a game. A game where lying and such is ALWAYS part of the game. Of course you don't have to, but we all have been around the block before and know that its going to happen, and that we are going to be backstabbed. Eh, its part of it. Here are my big problems, and surprisingly they have nothing to do with Sundra...I actually think Sundra played a great game up until her tantrum. The tantrum made me lose all respect for the amazing game she had played until that point.
Steph/JP - Its no secret to most of you that we hadn't been friends. I have tried very hard to extend the olive branch on many ocassions and even work with JP and try and show him that I am not a bad person. We played together toward the end in Hawaii and it was a ton of fun. So in this game we agreed to a Final 2...that's right a Final 2. However, this stipulation was given to me:
So I did. And in the end I was stabbed in the back. This hurt me, and once again put into question a relationship I was trying to mend and make work, but did I throw a tantrum and quit the game, no.
But Steph did. And this is the second time in FNET that she has done this...the first time (as Frank) was all my fault supposedly...and now this time, who knows...but whenever the going gets tough apparently its OK to bail.
Now as for Kathy, lets all be real here for a second. Some of you have played with her in the past some of you haven't, but I think everyone knows that Kathy is a very sensitive, private, fragile person. A person, in my opinion, that probably shouldn't be playing games like this. Kathy had no problem spreading slander about how she didn't think I was a very fair player or that she thought I was playing dirty and she had no problem rallying people to vote me out, after I tried to smooth things over. She had no problem lying to people in this game and doing what she wanted...what she did have a problem with was when people took her to task for it. And to me that's a little hypocritical. I love Kathy and I think she's an amazing person, but at some point she has to realize she is playing a game where you potentially vote out people you like. To stand on a soapbox and preach at all of us is nonsense and to act like she has played a completely squeaky clean game and we should all be more like her, is ridiculous too.
Part of final tribal is answering for your actions, and thats all we all are saying for everyone who has played in this game.
I for one think this final 2 is bunk. As much as I love Rudy, I don't see how this game can end fairly. I can't see how Sundra should be a juror after she pretty much trashed the entire series and said she wouldn't participate, but now she will. Be an adult and think before you say such horrible things, and be ready for the consequences. And why doesn't Steph's journal say WALKED like Kathy's? Did Steph not walk as well, and if so why is she a juror as well? Too many questions and the game is being determined by default.
I am disappointed.
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Post by Wizard. Oz on Jul 14, 2008 17:33:55 GMT -5
Why do we still need to take this personal Sundra?? This is a FREAKING GAME so dont judge my real life being for my actions here, i havent done it to you so dont do it to me.
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