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Post by Jeff Probst on Jun 5, 2008 15:30:59 GMT -5
Welcome to Security Council. It's time for another chat before we cast our votes. I know this is a different time for normal, but I hope you guys are okay with it. Welcome the members of our jury so far - Ozzy, Alicia, and Stacy. Now, let's talk.
Seeing how the game is down to 9 people, do you think that this vote is going to be split 5-4? Or is that something that you can't predict at this point?
What did you take into account when you were deciding who to give coconuts and the banana to?
Stacked votes have ended the game for a few players here. How much of a role are stacked votes factoring into decisions on who to vote for?
Tom, you got the most coconuts at that challenge. What do you think about that?
Sundra, you got no coconuts at all and won the challenge. Why do you think no one gave any to you?
To the others, what comments do you have on the results of the challenge?
You all have 48 hours to vote. Here is a new rule until the end of my summer trip. Please send your votes to both Raymond and I by adding Raymond in the To line. This is so that either Raymond or myself can read the votes, depending on who is available. Plus, I need all the votes anyway for my records and stuff. So that's all. Good luck.
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Post by Sundra Oakley on Jun 5, 2008 18:22:02 GMT -5
I mean this with no disrespect to Raymond, but is he now running the game with you? I just feel uncomfortable sending my vote to someone who could easily let others know, other players etc. Anyway, Seeing how the game is down to 9 people, do you think that this vote is going to be split 5-4? Or is that something that you can't predict at this point? The vote's been split pretty much each round, so I'd say it's likely, but you can never say for certain. What did you take into account when you were deciding who to give coconuts and the banana to? Who I didn't want to win immunity and who I thought would be most likely to give me coconuts. Stacked votes have ended the game for a few players here. How much of a role are stacked votes factoring into decisions on who to vote for? Clearly they're a big factor as I think we all really liked Stacy, and had it not been due to her having 5 past votes, I don't think, well I know I wouldn't have necesarily 'wanted' to vote her out last round, but that's the way the ball rolled, and she went home, and we move on. Sundra, you got no coconuts at all and won the challenge. Why do you think no one gave any to you? Because they all love me and want my babies?
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Post by Wizard. Oz on Jun 5, 2008 21:52:12 GMT -5
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Post by Bobby Jon on Jun 5, 2008 22:07:06 GMT -5
Seeing how the game is down to 9 people, do you think that this vote is going to be split 5-4? Or is that something that you can't predict at this point?
I guess you could say that, but like Sundra said you never know what can happen... Everything changes in this game everyone must always be on their toes!
What did you take into account when you were deciding who to give coconuts and the banana to?
When i gave my coconuts i thought who would be giving to me and stuff like that.. and my banana to the person i thought would be giving me the most
Stacked votes have ended the game for a few players here. How much of a role are stacked votes factoring into decisions on who to vote for?
It's very scary because I have so many stacked votes already and in the end they hurt you!
Good luck everyone!
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Post by Alicia Calaway on Jun 5, 2008 22:08:24 GMT -5
EDIT: I forgot I'm not allowed to talk here.
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Post by Rudy on Jun 5, 2008 23:49:38 GMT -5
(nods to Ozzy, Alicia, and Stacy) Oh Im tired of the sugar coating answers that everyone is always giving. Here's the real truth, as I see it! HA Theyre targetting me in the next few weeks so what do I care to be timid and all afraid to speak my mind now. ha Seeing how the game is down to 9 people, do you think that this vote is going to be split 5-4? Or is that something that you can't predict at this point?Oh I honestly think its going to be a 5-4 vote unless someone finally decides to take a risk. That risk would have to come from the 4 vote group or the 4 voting group will be picked off. OR...it will be 5-3-1 because someone will take a chance from the 4 group. The 5 vote group is too scared to risk any bold move even though it will look better to the jury in the end! Let's get honest here everyone! What did you take into account when you were deciding who to give coconuts and the banana to?I made some deals and I kept my promises with those deals. I tried to win this and wouldve had the chance if eveyone kept their deals with me. I knew in my heart that BJ would "get even" with me so he got the banana..and I was right. I also figured that Steph would do the reverse psychology thing and block me and think I would block her so I did not give her the banana because I figured she would think I would block her so she would not give me coconuts. I was correct there too! lol FUN CHALLENGE! Stacked votes have ended the game for a few players here. How much of a role are stacked votes factoring into decisions on who to vote for?Stacked votes wont come into play this week because the 5 person group doesnt have to worry about it this week. Being real again here. They will come into play big time in the next few weeks when after Tom goes, they will target me or Tina, while the rest have no choice but to go after those with the most votes. If those leave, then next week, the ones with the most will go unless saved by immunity and either Tina or I go then. Then each week it will be whoever has the most stacked votes. If anyone thinks stacked votes do not mean anything, they are sorely mistaken. Unless Steph or Sundra gets some votes soon, they will win the game unless an immunity saves someone else or someone breaks promises they have made. How's that for real answers? Tom, you got the most coconuts at that challenge. What do you think about that?Red herring to get me or Tina this week instead? hmmm Or just the truth and not afraid to admit it? To the others, what comments do you have on the results of the challenge?Mostly it was exactly how I predicted it would go. Sundra is a great person who is pretty honest and straightforward. That's why she was rewarded in this challenge and why she has no stacked votes. It is hard to dislike Sundra! Kathy is a under the radar person in that there are bigger fish to fry in this game so she goes undisturbed. I made some deals that were executed and almost allowed me to have a shot at it. They want out Tom, Tina and me so since the deals were made they had to make sure that Tom and Tina didnt win this. Pretty straightforward results. I want to say one thing here...if this comes off as smug, or sarcastic or arrogant thats only cause you want to see it that way. If you get upset by something here, well my intention was not to do that to you. And I am not saying this cause I am a sore loser. I havent lost yet to be a sore loser. lol I decided to answer how I honestly feel about this game cause I am playing the game and its just that, a game. If you know me at all, I am not about to cower down to pacify feelings here. The vague answers that are always given is actaully pretty humerous to me and I decided to answer how I honestly feel this game is going and see what happens next. They are trying to get me out anyways, so how much more could answering honestly actually hurt me? That is all.
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Post by Alicia Calaway on Jun 5, 2008 23:58:43 GMT -5
Seeing how the game is down to 9 people, do you think that this vote is going to be split 5-4? Or is that something that you can't predict at this point?The 5 vote group is too scared to risk any bold move even though it will look better to the jury in the end! Let's see, this statement gets... 5 rolling eye smileys. LOL
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Post by Rudy on Jun 6, 2008 0:07:12 GMT -5
Seeing how the game is down to 9 people, do you think that this vote is going to be split 5-4? Or is that something that you can't predict at this point?The 5 vote group is too scared to risk any bold move even though it will look better to the jury in the end! Let's see, this statement gets... 5 rolling eye smileys. LOL FIVE!?!? Was that 5 for me? Boy am I lucky! Or is that 1 for each of those 5 players? hehehe
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Post by Rudy on Jun 6, 2008 0:09:53 GMT -5
Oh drat! I mustnt talk to the jury. Sorry...oh wait, the jury isnt supposed to talk either! Hush Alicia.
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Post by Alicia Calaway on Jun 6, 2008 0:11:45 GMT -5
FIVE!?!? Was that 5 for me? Boy am I lucky! Or is that 1 for each of those 5 players? hehehe
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Post by Alicia Calaway on Jun 6, 2008 0:13:17 GMT -5
Oh drat! I mustnt talk to the jury. Sorry...oh wait, the jury isnt supposed to talk either! Hush Alicia. *Alicia opens her mouth to comment, but Ozzy slaps hand over Alicia's mouth to keep her from making a comment*
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Post by kathy on Jun 6, 2008 5:38:40 GMT -5
(trying again to get post to show up)
First, congrats, Sundra! But no coconut pie for you, now ;-)
Seeing how the game is down to 9 people, do you think that this vote is going to be split 5-4? Or is that something that you can't predict at this point? I have no idea what the numbers will be with this group of voters. I don't know everyone's vote. And this time I'm not as inclined to let others know my vote since I feel there is gossip/misunderstanding/whatever every round about my vote. When I tell someone my vote I don't expect it to be shared. I don't tell how other people vote - that's their business.
What did you take into account when you were deciding who to give coconuts and the banana to?
I made a coconut "deal" with one player for 0 each - I did that before in S1 (different player) That deal was honored. Loading one player with coconuts = to hope someone would not get immunity, and giving the banana to the player I thought may give me the most. I gave 1 and 2 out to make sure people could make pie, and we had to give to at least 2 players, so I split the last 3. I also changed my mind a few times.
Stacked votes have ended the game for a few players here. How much of a role are stacked votes factoring into decisions on who to vote for?
Previous votes are a factor, I think, when voting with an even number of players. I have played 2 games where the player in the game with the most votes (and it was a lot) got to the finals, so it does not always matter in the end. There are other factors, too, of course when deciding who to vote for.
To the others, what comments do you have on the results of the challenge?
I was surprised and nervous reading down the results - the "banana factor" was interesting to see. I think you never know for sure how this type challenge would work - especially with that banana. I never did the challenge with that twist before.
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Post by Tom Westman on Jun 6, 2008 8:10:03 GMT -5
What did you take into account when you were deciding who to give coconuts and the banana to? I just gave mine to who i thought would give theirs to me. In the most part I was right. I knew I was going to be a target coming into this week and I don't think that I should go home. I have worked with people and made deals with them and I am not going to break those deals ever in this game. I'd walk out of this game before that would happen. If those people know that then I believe that this vote could be another crazy vote. If that doesn't happen then I'll be shocked and hurt emotionally very much.
Stacked votes have ended the game for a few players here. How much of a role are stacked votes factoring into decisions on who to vote for?
Right now not very much. My vote is going to someone who I have wanted gone for a very long time in this game. I've wanted him gone week after week but the cards have never fallen correctly. Maybe this week they will
Tom, you got the most coconuts at that challenge. What do you think about that?
I take it as a complement. No joke! I'm glad that people think that I must be starving out here and decided to give me all of their coconuts. No- but from a game point of view I'm fine with it. It shows that people think I'm a threat in this game and that is a complement to me. I think this one vote will decide the rest of the game for people. If I go this round then I believe that we will see 5 people in the end and then I can't wait to see everyone have to "backstab" at that moment. If I stay this week I think it's pretty simple. People are going to get farther in this game if I stay than voting with the others because I only have a few deals. I am keeping those deals. If I my deals ever come in conflict with a vote then I'm leaving the game. If you look at that from the point of view that potentially 5 people are going to get to that same position with me then you can guarantee yourself a final 4 because I won't break my deal to those that I have promised since I have felt comfortable enough giving out a promise to them in hope that they would trust me.
To the others, what comments do you have on the results of the challenge?
Lets get this party started
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Post by Raymond on Jun 6, 2008 8:36:15 GMT -5
I mean this with no disrespect to Raymond, but is he now running the game with you? I just feel uncomfortable sending my vote to someone who could easily let others know, other players etc. I understand actually. If I were in your case, I probably would too. But I promise you guys. I won't reveal anything to anyone. Well, except the final vote reveal after all votes have been sent. Also the challenges during the time specified in the treemail. Also, I want to live up to MK's hosting capabilities. So ya, sorry if I don't.
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Post by Alicia Calaway on Jun 6, 2008 9:14:57 GMT -5
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